This master swordsmith in Seoul spoke in detail about his collection of ancient blades from Korea, China and Japan.
Han Jeong-Wook, the owner of Knife Gallery, spoke about the difference between blades from Korea, China and Japan: "Chinaโs iron technology goes back some 2,500 years, Korea for about 2,000 years and Japan 1,500 years. The difference among the three countries is that China has abundant iron ores, steelmaking from iron ore, we(Korea) have iron-sand smelting technology, and Korean iron sand-steel making on passed to Japan that later evolved to Tatara Steel.
Visuals from inside the gallery show impressive collections of weapons including large swords, bows and arrows, and smaller knives.
The swordsmith added: "Until around 1,200 years ago, most of (Korean) swords were straight knives. Then Mongolia has had a huge influence on mainland China. Mongolians mostly used curved swords. Those with a large curvature.
"It is said that those with curvature can cut larger area. As kitchen knives are curvaceous, for instance, people say that the blade with a curve is more advantageous for cutting.
After being asked how does it feel to make a sword, Jeong-Wook said: "There is no special sensation to it. I just make them one after another while living. It is an endless process. How can there be completion? There is no such thing."
This footage was filmed in October 2020.
INTERVIEW: KOREAN SWORDSMITH master SPEAKS about traditional SWORDS of KOREA, CHINA & JAPAN
Date: 09 OCT 2020 08:04 kst
Ref: YJD2010091l
Copyright: YangjaeJakdang
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Duration: 00:06:34:26
Sound: NATURAL SOUND WITH KOREAN SPEECH
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STORY: HAN Jeong-Wook , a 67 year old Korean master in sword making shares his thoughts on history of Korean, Chinese and Japanese swords, iron making and sword production.
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1. 00:00:00:00 - 00:00:15:02 SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
A VISITOR TO THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA VIEWING EXHIBITS OF KOREAN ARMOURMENTS SECTION.
2. 00:00:15:03 - 00:00:27:26 SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
VARIOUS BLADES OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS FROM JOSEON DYNASTY DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
3. 00:00:27:28 - 00:00:39:27 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
BLADE OF A TRADISIONAL KOREAN SWORD INCARVED WITH โ์ฌ์ธ์ฐธ์ฌ๊ฒ(ๅๅฏ
ๆฌ้ชๅ; INJUSTICE SLASHER SWORD PRODUCED AT THE FOUR-TIGER-TIME)โ IN CHINESE CHARACTER. โTHE INJUSTICE SLASHERSโ ARE TRADISIONAL KOREAN SWORDS MANUFACTURED FROM THE BEGINNING OF JOSEON DYNASTY BY ROYAL AND NOBLE FAMILIES IN ORDER TO REPEL EVEL ENERGY.
4. 00:00:40:03 - 00:01:06:02 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
TRADITIONAL KOREAN HORN BOW AND VARIOUS TYPES OF ARROWS DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
5. 00:01:06:14 - 00:01:19:04 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
VARIOUS TYPES OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN ARROWHEAD DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
6. 00:01:19:06 - 00:01:35:04 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
VARIOUS TYPES OF TRADITIONAL JAPANESE ARMORS AND SWORDS DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
7. 00:01:35:09 - 00:01:44:03 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
VARIOUS TYPES OF TRADITIONAL JAPANESE ARMORS AND SWORDS DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
8. 00:01:44:12 - 00:01:53:02 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
THE POINTS OF TRADITIONAL JAPANESE SWORDS DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
9. 00:01:53:11 - 00:02:00:25 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
VARIOUS TYPES OF TRADITIONAL CHINESE SWORDS DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
10. 00:02:00:29 - 00:02:11:25 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
VARIOUS TYPES OF TRADITIONAL CHINESE SWORDS DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
11. 00:02:12:08 - 00:02:20:09 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
CROSS-GUARD OF A TRADITIONAL CHINESE SWORD DISPLAYED AT THE KNIFE FALLERY AT INSADONG IN SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA.
12. 00:02:20:11 - 00:06:13:07 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
(SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYING โ๊ธด ์นผ์ด๋ ์งง์ ์นผ์ด๋ ์ด๋ ๋๋ผ๋ ๋ค ์๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ํนํ ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ๊ท์ ๋ ์นผ์ ํํ๋ ๊ธธ์ด๋ฅผ (์ ํต์ ์ผ๋ก) ์ ํด์ฃผ์ง๋ ์์์ด์. ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๋ผ๋ ๊ฑฐ๋. ๊ทธ๋ ๊ทธ๋๋ง๋ค ํ์์ ๋ฐ๋ผ์ ๋ณํด์จ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . / (English script) โIn fact, there are long and short swords in every country. (Traditionally) No one prescribed a shape or length of a sword. Weapons have changed from time to time as needed.โ
(00:02:39:28 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYING โ์ผ๋ณธ๋๋ ๊ธธ๊ณ ํ๊ตญ๊ฒ์ ์งง๋ค๋ ํต๋
์ ๋ํด) ์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์ง ์์์. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ๊ฒ๋ ๊ธด ๊ฒ ๋ง์ด ๋จ์ ์์ด์. ์ผ๋ณธ๋๋ ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๊ธธ์ง ์์์. ๋๊ฒ๊ฐ. ์นผ๋ ์ด ํ 60cm ๋ฐ์ ๋์ง ์์ผ๋๊น. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ ๊ธด ํธ์ ์๋์ฃ .โ / (English script) โ(Regarding the common notion that Japanese swords are long and Korean swords are short) That is not true. There are many remaining long Korean swords too. Japanese swords are not exceptionally long. Mostly, the blades (of Japanese swords) are merely around 60cm in length. They are not that long.โ
(00:02:48:29 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYING โ(์ ์ฒ ๊ธฐ์ ์ด ์นผ ํํ๋ ๋ชจ์์ ์ํฅ์ ๋ฏธ์ณค๋๋๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์) ์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ์ง ์์์. ์ฒ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ์ค๊ตญ์ ํ 2,500๋
์ ๋ ๋ณด๊ณ , ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ 2์ฒ๋
๋ณด๊ณ , ์ผ๋ณธ์ 1,500๋
๋ณด๊ฑฐ๋ ์. ์ด ์ธ๋๋ผ๊ฐ ํน์ฑ์ด ์กฐ๊ธ ์๋ ๊ฒ์ ์ค๊ตญ์ ์ฒ ๊ด์์ด ๋ง๊ณ , ์ฒ ๊ด์ ์ ์ฒ ์ด ๋ง๊ณ , ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์ฌ์ฒ ์ ์ฒ ์ด ์๊ณ , ์ฐ๋ฆฌ ์ฌ์ฒ ์ ์ฒ ์ด ์ผ๋ณธ์ผ๋ก ๋์ด๊ฐ์ ์ผ๋ณธ์์ ๋คํ๋ผ์ ์ฒ (ใใใ่ฃฝ้)์ด ๋๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์ฐ๋ฆฌํ๊ณ ๊ฐ์ ์ฌ๋ฃ๋ฅผ ์ผ์ฃ . ์ฌ๋ฃ์ ์ฐจ์ด๋ ์กฐ๊ธ ์์ด์.โ/(English script) โ(Answering to if level of steel making technology affected form or shape of swords) No, it did not. Chinaโs iron technology goes back some 2,500 years, Korea for about 2,000 years and Japan 1,500 years. Difference among the three countries is that China has abundant iron ores, steel making from iron ore, we(Korea) have iron-sand smelting technology, and Korean iron sand-steel making on passed to Japan that later evolved to โTatara Steel(ใใใ่ฃฝ้)โ. (Japanese) used the same material (producing swords) as us. There is some difference in ingredients.โ
(00:03:19:10 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYING โ(ํ๊ตญ ์ ํต ์นผ์ด ์ค๊ตญ๊ณผ์ ๊ฒฝ์์ผ๋ก ์ด๋ค ์ํฅ์ ๋ฐ์๋๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์ ๋ํด) ๋๊ฐ๊ฐ ์ง๊ธ๋ถํฐ ํ 1,200๋
์ ๊น์ง๋ ๊ฑฐ์๊ฐ ์ง๋์์ด์. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ๋ชฝ๊ณ ๊ฐ ๋ง์ ์ํฅ์ ์คฌ์ฃ . ์ค๊ตญ ๋๋ฅ์. ๋ชฝ๊ณ ๋ ํ ์นผ(๊ณก๋)์ ๋ง์ด ์ผ์ด์. ๊ณก๋ฅ ์ด ํฐ ๊ฑฐ๋ฅผ. ๊ทธ ์๋ ์ดํ๋ก ์กฐ์ ์๋ ๋ค์ด์ค๋ฉด์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ์นผ์ ์ข ํจ์ด ์๊ฒผ์ด์. ๊ทธ๋ฆฌ๊ณ ๊ณ ๋ ค ๋ ์ผ๋ณธ ์์ ์ ๊ฐ๋ฉด์ ๋ชฝ๊ณ ๊ฐ ์ผ๋ณธ ์นผ๋ค๋ ํจ์ด ์๊ฒผ๋ค๊ณ ๋ณด๊ณ ์์ด์. ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋ด์.โ / (English script) (Answering to a question on how Korean swords are influenced by Chinese swords while competing against them.) โUntil around 1,200 years ago, most of (Korean) swords were straight knives. Then Mongolia has had a huge influence on mainland China. Mongolians mostly used curved swords. Those with a large curvature. Since that era, as we (Korea) entered the Joseon Dynasty (1392-1897), we also started to have some flection in the swords. And we believe that during the Goryeo Dynasty (918-1392), by the Mongol invasions of Japan, Japanese swords were also started to have curves. That is my understanding.โ
(00:03:53:29 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYINGโ(์ง๋์ ๊ณก๋ ๊ฐ์ ์ฅ๋จ์ ์ด ์๋๋๋ ์ง๋ฌธ์) ๊ณก๋ฅ ์ด ์๋๊ฒ, ํจ์ด ์๋๊ฒ ๋ง์ ๋ถ์๋ฅผ ๋ฒจ ์ ์๋ค๊ณ ๊ทธ๋์. ์ค์ ๋ก ์๋ผ๋ณด๋ฉด. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค๋ฉด, ๋ถ์์นผ์ ๊ณก์ ์ด ์๋ฏ์ด ์นผ๋ ์ ๊ณก์ ์ด ์๋ ๊ฒ์ด ๋ฒ ๊ธฐ์ ์ ๋ฆฌํ๋ค๊ณ ํํ์ ํด์.โ /(English script) โ(Answering to the questions whether there are pros and cons between straight and curved swords) It is said that those with curvature can cut larger area. (It can be proved) if you cut (something with two types of knives.) As kitchen knives are curvaceous, for instance, people say that the blade with a curve is more advantageous for cutting.โ.
(00:04:09:29 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYINGโ(ํฐ๋ฒณ, ๋๋จ์์์ ์นผ ํํ์ ๊ดํ ์ง๋ฌธ์) ๊ทธ๊ฑฐ๋ ๊ทธ ๋๋ผ๊ฐ ๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ์๋ ๊ณ ์ ์ ๋์์ธ์ด์์. ์ํ๋ฆฌ์นด๋ ์ํ๋ฆฌ์นด ๋์์ธ์ ๊ฐ๊ณ ์๊ณ , ์ ๋ฝ์ ์ ์์ ๊ฐ์ด ๊ฒช์ผ๋๊น ๋ฌด๊ธฐ๊ฐ ๋น์ทํ๊ณ , ์ฒด๊ณ๊ฐ. ๊ทธ๋ฐ ์์ผ๋ก ์๊ธฐ ์คํ์ผ์ด ๋ฐ๋ฌํ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ํํ ๋ณด๋ ์ผ๋ณธ์์ ์จ ์ผ๋ณธ๋ ํ์
์ด ๋คํ์์๋ ๋ซ์ฒ๋ผ ์๊ฒผ๊ณ , ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์ด ๋ง๋ ์ด์์๋ ์ด๋ฐ ์ชฝ์ ๊ฐ๋ฉด โํฌ๋ฆฌ์คโ๋ผ๊ณ ํด๊ฐ์ง๊ณ ๊พธ๋ถ๊พธ๋ถํ ์นผ๋ค์ด ์๊ณ . ๊ทธ๊ฒ ๋ค ๊ทธ ๋๋ผ ๊ณ ์ ๋์์ธ์ด์์. ์ํฅ์ ๋ฐ์ง ์์ (๊ณ ์ ํ) ๋์์ธ์ด์ฃ .โ /(English script)โ(Answering to the question on various shapes of knives such as Tibetan or Southeast Asian swords) They are (results of) unique designs of each country. Africa has (various) designs of Africans, Europeans, as they went through war together, had similar weapon system. In such way, they developed their own (unique) style. Japanese swords, that we commonly come across, takes shape of sickles (โkukriโ) in Nepal, and in Malaysia, for example, there are serpentine swords called โkrisโ. They all unique designs of each country. Unaffected (unique) designs.โ
(00:04:48:11 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYINGโ(์ด๋ ํน์ ๋๋ผ์ ์นผ์ด ๋ ์ฐ์ํ๋ค๋ ์๊ฐ์ ๋ํด) ์๋์. ๋ณ๊ธฐ๋ ์ฐ์ํ ๋ณ๊ธฐ๋ผ๋ ๊ฒ์ ์์ด์. ์๋ฅผ ๋ค์๋ฉด ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๋ฉ๋ฉด ํ์ด ์ฃผ๋ก ์ฐ์๊ณ , ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ๊ฐ ๊ฐ๊น์ฐ๋ฉด, ์ ๋นํ ๊ฑฐ๋ฆฌ์์๋ ์ฐฝ์ด ์ฐ์ธํ๊ณ , ๊ทผ์ ์ ์์๋ ์นผ์ด ์ฐ์ธํ๊ณ . ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋ณด์๋ฉด ๋ผ์. ๊ทธ๋ฐ๋ฐ ๊ทธ ๋ณ๊ธฐ๋ค์ด ์ด๋ ๊ฒ ๋ ์ฐ์ธํ๋๊ณ ํ๋ฉด, ๊ฐ ๋๋ผ์ ๋ณ๊ธฐ๋ค์ด ๋ ์ฐ์ธํ ๊ฒ์ ์์์ด์. ๊ฑฐ์ ์์์ด์. ์ญ์ฌ์. ์๋์ ์
๋๋ค.โ / (English script) โ(To the belief that that swords of a certain country are superior to others) No. There is no such thing as a superior weapon. For example, when in long distance bows were mainly used, when in close range, at the proper distances, spears prevailed, and in close quarter combat, swords were the weapon of choice. That should be the way to understand (the issue). But if you are asked which weapons are more superior to others, there was no such thing as superior weapon of a country to others. Almost never. In history. It is matter of relativity.โ
(00:05:15:14 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYINGโ์ฒ ์ด๋ผ๋ ๊ฒ์, ์ ์ฒ ์์ฒด๊ฐ ํ๋ค์ด์. ์นผ์ ๋ง๋๋ ๊ฒ์ด ํ๋ ๊ฒ์ด ์๋๋ผ ์ฒ ์ ๋ง๋๋ ๊ณผ์ ์ด ํ๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฌ๋๊น ๊ทธ ๊ณผ์ ์ ๋
ธ๋ ฅ์ ๊ธฐ์ธ์ด๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ์นผ์ ๋ง๋๋ ๊ณผ์ ์ ์ฐ๋ฆฌ๋๋ผ๋ ์ผ๋ณธ์ด๋ ์ค๊ตญ์ด๋ ์ฝ๊ฐ ๋ฎ์๊ผด๋ค์ด ์์ด์. ์์ฃผ ํน๋ณํ์ง ์์์. ๊ทธ ๋น์์๋ ๊ทธ๋ ๊ฒ ๋ง๋ ์ฒ ๋ค์ด ํ์๊ฐ ์์ข์ผ๋๊น, ์ ์ ๋ฅผ ํด์, ์ ๋ฅผ ์ ์ด์ ์ผ๋ฌด์ง๊ฒ ๋ง๋ค๋ ค๊ณ ํ์ฃ .โ/(English script) โFor iron, iron making itself is strenuous job. It is not the making of a sword, but the process of manufacturing iron is difficult part. That is why you put your effort into the process. The process of making swords in Korea, Japan and China is somewhat similar. There is nothing much special to it. In the old days, the quality of irons produced were not that good, so they tried to make it firmer by folding it multiple times.
(00:05:54:07 - ) (SOUNDBITE) (Korean) HAN JEONG-WOOK, DIRECTOR OF โNIFE GALLERYโ AND A MASTER SWORDSMITH OF TRADITIONAL KOREAN SWORDS, SAYINGโ(์นผ์ ์์ฑํ์ ๋ ๋๋์ ๋ํด) ํน๋ณํ ๋๋์ ์์ด์. ๊ทธ๋ฅ ํ๋์ฉ ํ๋์ฉ ์ฌ๋ ๋ ๋์ ๋ง๋๋ ๊ฑฐ์ฃ . ๊ทธ๋ฅ ๋์ด ์๋ ๊ณผ์ ์ด์ฃ . ์์ฑ์ด ์ด๋ป๊ฒ ์์ด์. ์๋ ์์ด์.โ/(English script)(Answering to the questions what does he feel after completing a sword) โThere is no special sensation to it. I just make them one after another while living. It is an endless process. How can there be completion? There is no such a thing.
13. 00:06:13:17 - 00:06:34:26 | SEOUL, SOUTH KOREA (20 SEP 2020) (YANGJAEJAKDANG)
IMAGE OF HAN JEONG-WOOKโS โMASTER CERTIFICATE IN SWORD MAKINGโ ISSUED BY THE FEDERATION OF ARTISTIC & CULTURAL ORGANIZATIONS OF KOREA
INTERVIEW: KOREAN SWORDSMITH master SPEAKS about traditional SWORDS of KOREA, CHINA & JAPAN on 9 Oct 2020.